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Trowel Operation

3.  Stopping the Trowel

To stop the trowel’s movement, let go of the joysticks [B] and [C]. They will return to their neutral 
position. Also release pressure on the right foot pedal [E].

This machine is equipped with a seat kill switch mechanism. 

If in need of an emergency stop, simply turning the key off 

or raising off the seat even while holding the right foot pedal 

down, will stop the engine from running.  

4.  With the operator in the seat, show him the functions of the joysticks [B] and [C] and how 

to start the machine.

A hard level concrete slab with water on the surface is an ideal place for an operator to practice with the 
machine. For practice pitch the blades up approximately 1/4 inch on the trailing edge. Start by making 
the machine hover in one spot and then practice driving the machine in a straight line and making 180 
degree turns. Best control is achieved at full engine RPM. 

 

After starting engine, fully engage the throttle. This allows 

the engine to warm up quicker and also engages the torque 

converter.  At this time the machine’s rotors will begin 

turning so long as foot pedal [E] is engaged.

 

DO NOT

 

use excessive pressure on the joysticks. Excessive 

pressure does not increase the reaction time of the machine 

and can damage steering controls.

5.  Engine Speed

The engine has two primary speed settings: Idle (1200 RPM) & Full (3400 RPM)

The engine will start at idle speed. This machine is equipped with a 

Cold Weather Start 

circuit, meaning that 

the engine RPM will not increase above idle speed until the hydraulic oil has reached an optimum tempera-
ture. The operator can activate the RPM toggle to 

FULL

 during this period, however the RPM will not increase 

until that optimum temperature is achieved. 

There is a seat sensor on the machine that will not allow the engine RPM to go above idle speed if the opera-
tor is not seated.  Therefore, the operator must be seated AND the Cold Weather Start circuit must be disen-
gaged in order for to achieve full RPM speed.

SECTION 2

OPERATIONS

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Summary of Contents for MSP465

Page 1: ...SAFETY OPERATIONS MANUAL MSP465 Riding Trowel Manual Part 069598 Revision Language English Original Instructions ...

Page 2: ...ns in this manual are subject to change without notice and are based on the latest information at the time of publication No part of this manual may be reproduced or transmitted in any form or by any means electronics or mechanical for any purpose without the express written permission of Allen Engineering Corporation AEC AEC assumes no responsibility or liability for any errors or inaccuracies th...

Page 3: ...ct alterations or repairs made to the product without the written approval of Allen Allen specifically excludes from warranty any damage to any trowels resulting from an impact to the rotors 7 Impact damage to gear boxes is not covered under the Allen warranty and is deemed customer abuse 8 Allen will pay shop labor on warranty items at the Allen Shop Labor Rate in existence on the date of the war...

Page 4: ...ate Warning Regulations 16 Manual Tag Safety Detail 17 Spark Arrestor Notice 18 Operating Safety 19 Engine Safety 20 Service Safety 21 Lifting Safety 22 Transportation Safety 24 Pan Installation 25 Safety Decals 27 2 0 Operations 28 Introduction to MSP465 Start up Procedure 29 Machine Components 30 Trowel Operation 32 Engine Control Unit 35 3 0 Service 39 Maintenance Schedule 40 Fuel Oil Air Filte...

Page 5: ...rouble free operation This manual is divided into the following sections Complete any warranty requirements as specified by the engine manufacturer in their instructions found inside the manual box located on the back of the riding trowel operator s seat Your engine and clutch is not manufactured by Allen Engineering Corporation Inc and therefore is not covered under Allen Engineering Corporation ...

Page 6: ...069598 Page 6 GENERAL INFORMATION CE Declaration ...

Page 7: ...he handle grip while operating the ride on trowel on curing concrete in a manner most often experienced in normal circumstances Values were obtained from all three axes of motion The values shown represent the maximum RMS value from these measure ments Summary Data Of Sound And Vibration Testing for CE Marking Operator Ear SPL Seat Vibration Average Left Hand Vibration Average Right Hand Vibration...

Page 8: ...ss 4 DO NOT return parts to AEC without receiving written authorization from AEC All authorized returns must be shipped pre paid 5 When placing an order please contact the AEC dealer nearest you ALL INFORMATION SPECIFICATIONS AND ILLUSTRATIONS IN THIS MANUAL ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE WITHOUT NOTICE AND ARE BASED ON THE LATEST INFORMATION AT THE TIME OF PUBLICATION Your Dealer has Allen Engineering Cor...

Page 9: ...19 001 Series Sequence Number Month Year Unit Identification Plate Location An identification plate listing the model number and the serial number is attached to each unit and is located on the rear lower left side of mainframe Refer below for serial number and model number location This plate should not be removed at any time Please record the information found on this plate below so it will be a...

Page 10: ...eering System Manual Number of Operating Lights 6 Height 60 15 16 154 0 cm Length 101 1 2 257 8 cm Width 50 5 8 128 6 cm Dry Weight 1633 lbs 740 7 Kg Panning Width 97 5 247 7 cm Rotor Center Distance 51 129 5 cm Rotor Diameter 46 116 8 Idle RPM 1000 Full RPM 3600 Lifting 2 point Top Mounted 069598 Page 10 GENERAL INFORMATION Technical Specifications ...

Page 11: ...101 1 2 in 2578 0 50 5 8 in 1286 3 60 15 16 in 1548 1 069598 Page 11 GENERAL INFORMATION Machine Dimension Specifications ...

Page 12: ... Coil on Plug Intake System Naturally Aspirated Compression Ratio 9 1 1 Governor Type Electronic Cooling System High Capacity Liquid Direction of Rotation Rev Counter Clockwise view from Flywheel Oil Pan Capacity in gal L 1 59 6 0 Starter Capacity V kW 12V 1 0 kW Alternator Capacity 12V 40A Dry Weight lbs kg 264 6 120 Dimensions Length in mm 23 3 591 3 Width in mm 18 8 478 7 Height in mm 25 7 652 ...

Page 13: ...069598 Page 13 GENERAL INFORMATION Engine Specifications Dimensions mm in ...

Page 14: ...ter Cartridge 13 Oil Pressure Switch 14 Electronic Control Throttle REF PART NAME 15 Injector 16 Gas Mixer 17 Pressure Regulator 18 Intake Manifold 19 Cooling Fan 20 Fan Belt 21 Fan Drive Pulley 22 Oil Drain Plug 23 Oil Pan 24 Flywheel 25 ECU Engine Control Unit Information taken directly from manufactures product literature For further information regarding mechanical or electrical operation plea...

Page 15: ...SECTION 1 SAFETY SECTION 1 SAFETY 069598 Page 15 ...

Page 16: ...RESPIRATORY HAZARDS Grinding cutting drilling of masonry concrete metal and other materials can generate dust mists and fumes con taining chemicals known to cause serious or fatal injury or illness such as respiratory disease cancer birth defects or other reproductive harm SILICOSIS WARNING Grinding cutting drilling of masonry concrete metal and other materials with silica in their composition may...

Page 17: ... is essential to highlight that contains useful or important information EMERGENCY is used for the identification of safety equipment first aid or emergency egress locations NOTICE used to convey safety information on labels and signs CAUTION is indicative of a potentially hazardous situation which if not avoided may result in minor or moderate injury WARNING Indicative of a potentially hazardous ...

Page 18: ...t is often required when operating equipment on forested land to prevent the risk of fires Consult the engine distributor or local authorities and make sure that you comply with regulations regarding spark arrestors SECTION 1 SAFETY 069598 Page 18 Potential hazards associated with the operation of this equipment will be referenced with haz ard symbols which may appear throughout this manual in con...

Page 19: ... engine or muffler while the engine is on or immediately after it has been turned off These areas get hot and may cause burns NEVER use accessories or attachments that are not recommended by AEC Damage to equipment and injury to the user may result NEVER operate the machine with the belt guard missing Exposed drive belt and pulleys create potentially dangerous hazards that can cause serious injuri...

Page 20: ...s from the engine contains poisonous carbon monoxide gas exposure to carbon monoxide can cause loss of consciousness and may lead to death DO NOT smoke while operating the machine DO NOT smoke when refueling the engine DO NOT refuel a hot or running engine DO NOT refuel the engine near an open flame DO NOT spill fuel when refueling the engine DO NOT run the engine near open flames ALWAYS refill th...

Page 21: ...s carefully The blades can develop sharp edges which can cause serious cuts ALWAYS keep the area around the muffler free of debris such as leaves paper cartons etc A hot muffler could ignite the debris and start a fire ALWAYS replace worn or damaged components with spare parts designed and recommended by AEC Corporation ALWAYS disconnect the spark plug on machines equipped with gasoline engines be...

Page 22: ...ail the use of Rigging Equipment for Material handling This guideline is found under OSHA Standard Number 1926 251 Please read and follow all guidelines found in this standard Removal from service Synthetic web slings shall be immediately removed from service if any of the following conditions are present OSHA 1926 251 e 8 SECTION 1 SAFETY 069598 Page 22 ...

Page 23: ...tional lifting harness is available for purchase Part number 067568 Place slings chains or hooks through each lifting point on the machine Use a sling or chains connected to a central lifting device Ensure that all lifting devices have sufficient weight bearing capacity ALWAYS shutdown engine before transporting Lifting Safety SECTION 1 SAFETY 069598 Page 23 LIFTING POINT ...

Page 24: ... electric brake operation Secure portable power cables in cable tray with tie wraps The maximum speed for highway towing is 55 MPH unless posted otherwise Recommended off road towing is not to exceed 15 MPH or less depending on type of terrain Avoid sudden stops and starts This can cause skidding or jack knifing Smooth gradual starts and stops will improve towing Avoid sharp turns to prevent rolli...

Page 25: ...own onto the pans Make sure the blades are going into the proper gaps Typically the pans can only be installed one way 6 Once the machine is on securely on the ground with the pans underneath remove the lifting bridle from the machine 7 Start the machine and slowly increase the throttle until the blades begin turning and engaging the pans The machine is now ready to finish the concrete utilizing t...

Page 26: ...machine making sure that you are aware of the corners of the blades as they are sharp 4 Align the pans so that the clips will not be crushed when the machine is lowered back down 5 Slowly lower the machine down onto the pans Make sure the blades are going into the proper gaps Typically the pans can only be installed one way 6 Remove the dolly jacks from the machine 7 Start the machine and slowly i...

Page 27: ...IENTS PART 068457 QTY 1 DECAL SAFETY WARNINGS PART 069115 QTY 1 DECAL MSP465 FUSE DETAIL PART 070127 QTY 1 DECAL LIFTING POINT PART 065653 QTY 2 DECAL DROP HAZARD PART 065656 QTY 2 DECAL TIE DOWN PART 068459 QTY 4 DECAL PINCH HAZARD PART 065917 QTY 2 DECAL EPA INFO PART 067934 QTY 1 DECAL GREASE PART 066103 QTY 2 DECAL GEARBOX OIL PART 048299 QTY 1 DECAL PROP 65 PART 069225 QTY 1 ...

Page 28: ...SECTION 2 OPERATION SECTION 2 OPERATIONS 069598 Page 28 ...

Page 29: ... shutdown switch and a low oil warning for added job safety and engine protection Operating time between fuel refills is approximately 2 1 2 to 3 hours depending on rotor speeds Before Starting Procedures Before starting the riding trowel check for the following 1 Oil level in engine 2 Oil level in riding trowel gearboxes 3 Fuel level in fuel tank 4 Condition of air filter on engine 5 Condition of...

Page 30: ... 9 065655 10 065656 11 065897 12 065917 13 065965 14 066018 15 066068 16 066103 17 066110 18 067934 19 068457 20 068459 21 069109 22 069110 23 069112 24 069113 25 069115 26 069225 27 069295 28 069296 29 069298 30 069300 31 069301 32 069302 33 069759 34 1 11 5 6 4 15 18 19 24 7 13 14 2 3 17 9 21 22 8 8 16 26 26 12 10 20 27 29 29 28 9 11 11 25 23 30 ...

Page 31: ... Right Blade Pitch used to change the pitch of the right blades 15 Cruise Control Switch Turns the machine cruise control on off 16 Tool Holder Store hand tools here 17 Cup Holder Holds your favorite beverage 18 Engine Module Controls engine RPM shows fuel level controls monitors multiple other features 19 Fuse Box Holds electrical fuses and relays 20 Muffler Used to control exhaust sound and dire...

Page 32: ...hould be taken All items in this manual are describe from the operator Sitting On Machine or SOM for short 1 Location of all Operating Controls A Right Pitch Control B Joystick Forward Reverse C Joystick Left Right Forward Reverse D Left Pitch Control E Right Foot Pedal F Retardant Spray Pushbutton 2 Steering the Riding Trowel A slight feathering motion forward and backward with the left hand joys...

Page 33: ...arting engine fully engage the throttle This allows the engine to warm up quicker and also engages the torque converter At this time the machine s rotors will begin turning so long as foot pedal E is engaged DO NOT use excessive pressure on the joysticks Excessive pressure does not increase the reaction time of the machine and can damage steering controls 5 Engine Speed The engine has two primary ...

Page 34: ...stages of the concrete When changing or setting pitch angle of trowel blades slow the machine down set the desired degree of pitch on the left side of the machine and then adjust the right side to match To change the pitch the opera tor will use the rocker switch located at the top of either joy stick By pressing the rocker switch towards the inside the pitch will decrease pressing the switch towa...

Page 35: ...c graphics designate screen layout and define custom parameters The PV380 is equipped with five tactile push buttons to quickly access a convenient menu In addition a back lit and heated graphic display with LEDs indicate alarm or shutdown status Flat Screen Display A 3 8 QVGA monochrome LCD screen displays gauges soft key commands and fault messages as well as menu options for setup and configura...

Page 36: ...D Resolution QVGA 320 x 240 Pixels Orientation Landscape Back lighting LED White Flash Memory 2Mb RAM 256kb Operating Voltage 6 36 VDC Power Consumption 10 Watt Communications CAN 2 0B RS485 Modbus Engine Control Unit ECU SECTION 2 OPERATIONS 069598 Page 36 ...

Page 37: ...lection UP use button 2 to move the selection DOWN button 3 will verify the selection use button 5 to return to the home screen BUTTON FOUR Directs you to the Service Reminder screen The first screen will give an overview of the current state of all the service reminders that are set To cycle through reset the reminders press OK button 3 then press the down arrow button 1 and select button 3 This ...

Page 38: ...ile in run RPM the machine will return to IDLE RPM The status of this function can be viewed in the IO STATUS screen under SEAT SW Run Light When the oil temp has reached an acceptable temp the green light to the right of the operator will illu minate Lift Off When lifting the machine off the slab with no operator in the seat someone can hold the Run Idle Rocker to achieve a higher Engine RPM for ...

Page 39: ...SECTION 3 SERVICE 069598 Page 39 SECTION 3 SERVICE ...

Page 40: ...s X Check poly V belt X Inspect all Hardware X Inspect Belts X Inspect Wiring X Inspect Battery X Inspect Exhaust X Inspect Coolant Hoses X Inspect Catalyst X ACTION Control Linkage Lubrications X Change Engine Oil X Change Fuel Filters X Change Oil Separator Element X Change Air Filters X Drain Water Separator X Replace Fan Belt X Clean Entire EGR System X Change Coolant X Maintenance Schedule Ch...

Page 41: ...ription Filter Motor Oil For Kubota WG1605 Part 043920 Description Filter Fuel For Kubota WG1605 Part 069249 Description Filter Air Safety For Kubota WG1605 3 Part 069428 Description Filter Air Primary For Kubota WG1605 4 SECTION 3 SERVICE 069598 Page 41 ...

Page 42: ... used with your engine 2 Attach one end of the positive booster cable red to the positive ter minal of the booster battery Attach the other end to the terminal of your engine battery 3 Attach one end of the negative booster cable black to the negative terminal on the booster Attach the other end of the negative cable to your engine battery 4 Jump starting in any other manner may result in damage t...

Page 43: ...The steps below descried the general procedure to remove the trowel arms to be aligned 1 Block up pressure plate A using a wooden block 2 Remove stabilizer ring from spider assembly only on available models 3 Remove blades from trowel arms 4 Loosen hex head cap screw B and remove it and the external star washer from the spider boss 5 Remove trowel arms from spider boss with lift levers in place 6 ...

Page 44: ...5 Engine Coolant Temperature Abnormality High Side Stage 1 0 Engine Coolant Temperature Abnormality High Side Stage 2 Intake Air Temperature 105 3 Sensor or Wiring Harness Open or Short to Power Sensor Malfunction 4 Sensor or Wiring Harness Short to Ground Sensor Malfunction 15 Engine Coolant Temperature Abnormality High Side Stage 1 0 Engine Coolant Temperature Abnormality High Side Stage 2 Knock...

Page 45: ...r Short or Damage FPP Malfunction Engine Speed 515 15 Engine Over Speed Condition Stuck Throttle Large Vacuum Leak Into Intake Manifold After Throttle Blade 16 Engine Over Speed Condition Faulty Crank Sensor or Input 0 Engine Over Speed Condition Faulty Crank Sensor or input Oil Pressure 100 1 Low Oil Pressure Adaptive Learn 4237 0 Exhaust Leaks Upstream or Near the HEGO Sensor Reduced Fuel Supply...

Page 46: ...Inoperative sensor 3227 Injectors 651 5 Loss of 12 V feed to injector Open injector coil Open or shorted to ground injector driver circuit in engine harness 6 Injector coil shorted internally Injector driver circuit shorted to voltage between injector and ECM 652 5 Loss of 12 V feed to injector Open injector coil Open or shorted to ground injector driver circuit in engine harness 6 Injector coil s...

Page 47: ...Pump Relay Control Coil 1348 4 Relay pull in coil shorted internally Relay driver circuit shorted to ground in wire harness 5 Open coil in relay Open in relay driver circuit in engine harness 3 Shorted relay pull in coil Relay driver circuit shorted to voltage in wire harness Power Relay Control Coil 1485 4 Short to Ground in Relay Pull in Coil Short to Ground in Relay Driver Circuit in Wire Harne...

Page 48: ...s in Wrong Connector Terminal Slot 4 Loss of feed voltage to Cam sensor Loss of signal or ground circuits Faulty sensor Internal Processor Diagnostics 628 13 Faulty ECU 629 31 Faulty ECU 630 12 Faulty ECU 1634 2 Faulty ECU J1939 Network 695 9 Fault Codes This is only a partial list of the most common error codes that are available If an alternate code is shown that is not on this list please conta...

Page 49: ...m away from the machine Keep a perpendicular angle 90 when cleaning over a decal Holding nozzle of a pressure washer at an angle different from 90 may lift the decal from the machine Recommended using a safe cement dissolver BACK SET or similar to remove hardened concrete It is NOT recommended to use chemicals such as Muriatic Acid Hydrochloric Acid Hydrofluoric Acid Sulfuric Acid Phosphoric Acid ...

Page 50: ...SECTION 4 ACCESSORIES SECTION 4 ACCESSORIES 069598 Page 50 ...

Page 51: ...0 Lip Angle 5 Blade Part Number 051552 Float Pan Safety Catch 46 5 O D Universal Flat 80 Lip Angle 5 Blade Part Number 051553 Dolly Jacks are available for HDX riders to make mobilization easier These tires are foam filled to help support the added weight of the machine and to help prevent flats Comes in set of 2 Part Number 039090 F Lifting Bridle 6 000 Pound Max 2 Point x 3 Foot Part Number 0645...

Page 52: ...Device Scan this QR code with a compatible device cellular phone tablet etc Computer Click the link or go to the following website alleneng com service manuals MSP465 Parts and Decals Mail A physical copy of the parts manual can also be mailed to you upon request Please contact Allen Engineering service department and one can be sent to you Allen Engineering P O Box 819 Paragould Ar 72451 USA Phon...

Page 53: ...Revision Detail 069598 Page 53 GENERAL INFORMATION MANUAL REVISION DETAIL REVISION REVISION DATE REVISION REFERENCE REVISION BY 10 19 Initial Release MW ...

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