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S8700B,D-F,J-M DIRECT SPARK IGNITION CONTROLS

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Fig. 5. S8700E,F,L,M retry sequence of operation.

WARNING

High Voltage Hazard. 
Shock can cause personal injury.
To prevent electric shock, do not allow fingers to 
touch the stripped end of the jumper or the 
spark terminal. 

4.

Perform this test immediately upon energizing the 
system, before the S8700 goes into lockout and 
interrupts the spark circuit. Touch one end of the 
jumper firmly to the S8700 GND terminal. Do not 
remove the existing ground lead. Slowly move the 
other end of the jumper wire toward the spark ter-
minal on the control to establish a spark. Pull the 
wire away from the spark terminal and note the 
length of the gap at which the spark discontinues. 

5.

A spark length of 1/8 in. (3 mm) or more indicates 
satisfactory voltage output. If no arc can be 
established or the maximum spark is less than 1/8 
in. (3 mm) and power to the S8700 input terminals 
was proved, replace the S8700.

Ignition Cable 

Check the electrical continuity of the ignition cable and 
make certain that the cable is not in contact with metal 
surfaces. The total cable length should not exceed 6 ft 
(1.8m). Check connection to the spark terminal on the 
S8700 and the boot connection to the igniter/sensor. 
Make certain they are clean and tight.

Grounding Connections

A common ground is required for the main burner, spark 
igniter mounting bracket or igniter sensor mounting 
bracket, and the GND (burner) terminal of the S8700. If 
the common ground connections are poor or erratic, 
safety shutdown can occur occasionally even though 
operation is normal at time of checkout. Therefore, if 
nuisance shutdowns have been reported, be sure to 
check ground connections. 

Electrical ground connections at the spark igniter or 
igniter sensor and the S8700 must be clean and tight. If 
leadwire is damaged or deteriorated, use only a No. 14 
or No. 18 gauge, moisture resistant, thermoplastic 
insulated wire with 221

°

F (105

°

C) minimum rating as a 

replacement.

Flame Sensor Circuit

The S8700 provides ac voltage to the flame sensor. 
When a flame of sufficient size is present, the ac 
voltage is rectified and sensed as a dc flame current by 
the S8700. The S8700 will operate with a steady 1.0 µA 
dc flame current. However, reliable appliance operation 
requires at least 2.0 µA flame current (measured with  
an analog dc microammeter during worst case appli-
ance checkout.).

CALL FOR HEAT (24 VAC INPUT TO 24 VAC TERMINAL).

SAFE START CHECK. FLAME DETECTED?
(LED BLINKS RAPIDLY).

PREPURGE (L AND M MODELS).

SPARK GENERATOR POWERED; MAIN VALVE OPENS.

MAIN BURNER LIGHTS AND FLAME SENSED 
DURING TRIAL FOR IGNITION?

NORMAL MAIN BURNER OPERATION.

FLAME SIGNAL LOST?

CALL FOR HEAT ENDS (24 VAC INPUT REMOVED
FROM 24 VAC TERMINAL).

MAIN BURNER OFF.

MAIN VALVE STAYS OPEN; 
SPARK GENERATOR POWERED.

1 HOUR AUTO RESET TIME.

START

SAFE START
CHECK/
PREPURGE

TRIAL FOR
IGNITION

MAIN
BURNER
OPERATION

END

NO

NO

NO

NO

YES

NO

YES

YES

NO

YES

YES

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WAIT 4 SEC. FLAME
STILL DETECTED?

YES

LOCKOUT WITH
LED ON STEADY.

MAIN VALVE CLOSES;
SPARK GENERATOR OFF.
LOCKOUT WITH LED ON STEADY

MAIN BURNER LIGHTS AND FLAME
SENSED DURING TRIAL FOR IGNITION?

NOTES:
— WHEN CONTROL IS IN LOCKOUT, ALARM OUTPUT (IF PROVIDED) IS ENERGIZED.
— LED FLASHES AT HEARTBEAT SPEED DURING ALL NORMAL OPERATION.

RETRY COUNT
LESS THAN 2?

30 SEC. BETWEEN
TRIAL PURGE.

Summary of Contents for S8700 Series

Page 1: ...tput is positive phase one half wave rectified 24 Vac Spark Output 14 KV minimum into 25 picofarad capacitive load Environmental Ambient Operating Temperature 40 F to 175 F 40 C to 79 C Relative Humidity 5 to 95 at 95 F 35 C noncondensing Ignition Sequence Flame Sense Prepurge See Table 1 Ignition Trials to Lockout See Table 1 Trial for Ignition Times 4 6 6 6 11 1 or 21 1 second nominal available ...

Page 2: ... to protect the control Proper insulation or shielding should be provided by the appliance manufacturer verify proper air circulation is maintained when the appliance is installed System Requirements S8700 system requirements Q347A Spark Igniter and Q354A Flame Sensor or a Q366 with separate spark igniter and flame sensor mounted on a common bracket Equivalent ignition hardware may be used Honeywe...

Page 3: ...ontrol 1 Connect the system components to the S8700 terminals as shown in the wiring diagrams Fig 2 and 3 Refer to the heating appliance manufac turer s instructions for wiring any other auxiliary controls 2 Adjust the temperature control heat anticipator if provided to match the system current draw The current draw equals the total current required for the S8700 0 15A plus the gas valve and all o...

Page 4: ...t System 1 Turn on the power and the gas supply 2 Set the temperature control to call for heat and watch for a spark at the igniter S8700B D E F models have no delay on start up S8700J K L M models have a predetermined delay on start up for prepurge Check that the system starts as follows Prepurge delay if provided spark turns on gas valve opens at once and burner ignites after gas reaches the mai...

Page 5: ...the reset normal condition and interrupts the spark ignition circuit Should the current flow be interrupted i e flame out condition the spark will be re initiated immediately and a normal trial for ignition will occur If the main burner lights and proves a normal run will occur If the main burner does not light and prove the S8700 goes into lockout The S8700 keeps the gas control main valve open a...

Page 6: ...gnition circuit do the following 1 Shut off the gas supply to the gas control 2 Be sure system power supply delivers proper volt age to the S8700 during the ignition cycle 3 Disconnect the ignition cable at the S8700 spark terminals to isolate the circuit from the spark igniter or igniter sensor Prepare a short jumper lead using heavily insulated wire such as ignition cable Fig 4 S8700B D J K one ...

Page 7: ...y even though operation is normal at time of checkout Therefore if nuisance shutdowns have been reported be sure to check ground connections Electrical ground connections at the spark igniter or igniter sensor and the S8700 must be clean and tight If leadwire is damaged or deteriorated use only a No 14 or No 18 gauge moisture resistant thermoplastic insulated wire with 221 F 105 C minimum rating a...

Page 8: ...ions as described in the following sections Fig 6 S8700D F K M dual rod flame current measurement Fig 7 S7800B E J L single rod flame current measurement Burner Flame The flame sensor must be constantly immersed in flame Check the burner flame conditions as shown in Fig 7 NOTE Note If the main burner flame is fluctuating or lifting off the main burner intermittent flame signals can be generated Ad...

Page 9: ...ce or repair the troubleshooting sequence should be repeated until normal system operation is obtained NOTE When the appliance is in the lightoff mode ignition spark and the gas control are energized only during the trial for ignition which can last from four to 21 seconds depending on the S8700 model It will be necessary to recycle the call for heat to the control while performing this troublesho...

Page 10: ...SPARK GAP IS NOT TOO SMALL OR TOO LARGE ALL OK REPAIR REPLACE AS NECESSARY REPAIR REPLACE AS NECESSARY IF S8700 GOES INTO LOCKOUT RESET SYSTEM CHECK FOR 24 VAC BETWEEN S8700 VALVE AND VALVE GND TERMINALS DURING TRIAL FOR IGNITION CHECK GAS SUPPLY GAS CONTROL AND GAS CONTROL WIRING REPAIR REPLACE AS NECESSARY IF S8700 GOES INTO LOCKOUT RESET SYSTEM CHECK ALL IGNITION CABLE BURNER GROUND WIRING AND ...

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