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S8700B,D-F,J-M DIRECT SPARK IGNITION CONTROLS

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Check the flame sensing current from the sensor to the 
S8700 as follows:

For S8700D,F,K,M:

1.

Connect an analog meter (dc microammeter 
scale) in series with the flame sense lead as 
shown in Fig. 6. Use the Honeywell W136A test 
meter or equivalent. Disconnect the flame sense 
wire from the sense terminal on the control. Con-
nect the red (positive) meter lead to the flame 
sense terminal on the control. Connect the black 
(negative) meter lead to the flame sense wire 
leading to the flame rod.

2.

Restart the system and read the meter. The flame 
sense current should be at least 2.0 

µ

A and 

steady to assure reliable appliance operation. If 
the reading is less than 2.0 

µ

A or unsteady, See 

the Low Or Unsteady Flame Current section. If 
flame is present at the sensor and a reading of 

µ

A is obtained, check for damaged insulation or 

ground path in the flame sensor wiring. Also 
check for damaged, wet or dirty ceramic in the 
flame sensor assembly.

For the S8700B,E,J,L: 

1.

Connect a switch between the S8700 spark termi-
nal and the spark cable. See fig. 7.

2.

 Attach meter leads on each side of the switch .

3.

Light burner with the switch closed, then open the 
switch to read flame current. 

IMPORTANT

Do not let spark energy enter the meter or 
damage can result.

LOW OR UNSTEADY 
FLAME CURRENT

If the current to the S8700 is less than 2.0 

µ

A or is 

unsteady, check the burner flame, flame sensor location 
and electrical connections as described in the following 
sections.

Fig. 6. S8700D,F,K,M dual-rod 

flame current measurement.

Fig. 7. S7800B,E,J,L single rod 

flame current measurement.

Burner Flame

The flame sensor must be constantly immersed in 
flame. Check the burner flame conditions as shown in 
Fig. 7.

NOTE:

Note:If the main burner flame is fluctuating or 
lifting off the main burner, intermittent flame 
signals can be generated. Adjust the appliance 
so that the main flame is steady and not lifted 
from the main burner.

Flame Sensor

The flame signal is best when about 1 in. (25 mm) of 
flame rod is immersed in the burner flame. A bent flame 
rod, bent mounting bracket or cracked ceramic insulator 
can affect flame signal. A cracked ceramic insulator 
may perform properly when cold, but can cause inter-
mittent operation when it heats up. Replace flame 
sensor if necessary.

Electrical Connections and Shorts

All wiring must be in good condition; replace if insulation 
shows any sign of damage. Connections at the S8700 
and the flame sensor must be clean and tight. Wiring 
between the main burner and the S8700 GND (burner) 
terminal must also be in good condition. A jumper 
between the GND (burner) terminal and the main burner 
will often confirm if the flame circuit wiring needs atten-
tion. If wiring needs replacement, use moisture resistant 
No. 18 wire rated for continuous duty up to 221

°

(105

°

C).

ALARM

VALVE

(GND)

SPARK

SENSE

RED (+)

BLACK (–)

ANALOG METER

DC MICROAMP 

SCALE (MUST READ 

TO 0.1 uA dc)

2.0 

µ

A dc MINIMUM (AND STEADY)

M16236B

FLAME 
SENSOR

BURNER

ALARM

VALVE

(GND)

SPARK

RED (+)

BLACK (–)

2.0 

µ

A dc MINIMUM (AND STEADY)

M16664

FLAME 
SENSOR

BURNER

SWITCH

ANALOG METER

DC MICROAMP 

SCALE (MUST READ 

TO 0.1 uA dc)

Summary of Contents for S8700 Series

Page 1: ...tput is positive phase one half wave rectified 24 Vac Spark Output 14 KV minimum into 25 picofarad capacitive load Environmental Ambient Operating Temperature 40 F to 175 F 40 C to 79 C Relative Humidity 5 to 95 at 95 F 35 C noncondensing Ignition Sequence Flame Sense Prepurge See Table 1 Ignition Trials to Lockout See Table 1 Trial for Ignition Times 4 6 6 6 11 1 or 21 1 second nominal available ...

Page 2: ... to protect the control Proper insulation or shielding should be provided by the appliance manufacturer verify proper air circulation is maintained when the appliance is installed System Requirements S8700 system requirements Q347A Spark Igniter and Q354A Flame Sensor or a Q366 with separate spark igniter and flame sensor mounted on a common bracket Equivalent ignition hardware may be used Honeywe...

Page 3: ...ontrol 1 Connect the system components to the S8700 terminals as shown in the wiring diagrams Fig 2 and 3 Refer to the heating appliance manufac turer s instructions for wiring any other auxiliary controls 2 Adjust the temperature control heat anticipator if provided to match the system current draw The current draw equals the total current required for the S8700 0 15A plus the gas valve and all o...

Page 4: ...t System 1 Turn on the power and the gas supply 2 Set the temperature control to call for heat and watch for a spark at the igniter S8700B D E F models have no delay on start up S8700J K L M models have a predetermined delay on start up for prepurge Check that the system starts as follows Prepurge delay if provided spark turns on gas valve opens at once and burner ignites after gas reaches the mai...

Page 5: ...the reset normal condition and interrupts the spark ignition circuit Should the current flow be interrupted i e flame out condition the spark will be re initiated immediately and a normal trial for ignition will occur If the main burner lights and proves a normal run will occur If the main burner does not light and prove the S8700 goes into lockout The S8700 keeps the gas control main valve open a...

Page 6: ...gnition circuit do the following 1 Shut off the gas supply to the gas control 2 Be sure system power supply delivers proper volt age to the S8700 during the ignition cycle 3 Disconnect the ignition cable at the S8700 spark terminals to isolate the circuit from the spark igniter or igniter sensor Prepare a short jumper lead using heavily insulated wire such as ignition cable Fig 4 S8700B D J K one ...

Page 7: ...y even though operation is normal at time of checkout Therefore if nuisance shutdowns have been reported be sure to check ground connections Electrical ground connections at the spark igniter or igniter sensor and the S8700 must be clean and tight If leadwire is damaged or deteriorated use only a No 14 or No 18 gauge moisture resistant thermoplastic insulated wire with 221 F 105 C minimum rating a...

Page 8: ...ions as described in the following sections Fig 6 S8700D F K M dual rod flame current measurement Fig 7 S7800B E J L single rod flame current measurement Burner Flame The flame sensor must be constantly immersed in flame Check the burner flame conditions as shown in Fig 7 NOTE Note If the main burner flame is fluctuating or lifting off the main burner intermittent flame signals can be generated Ad...

Page 9: ...ce or repair the troubleshooting sequence should be repeated until normal system operation is obtained NOTE When the appliance is in the lightoff mode ignition spark and the gas control are energized only during the trial for ignition which can last from four to 21 seconds depending on the S8700 model It will be necessary to recycle the call for heat to the control while performing this troublesho...

Page 10: ...SPARK GAP IS NOT TOO SMALL OR TOO LARGE ALL OK REPAIR REPLACE AS NECESSARY REPAIR REPLACE AS NECESSARY IF S8700 GOES INTO LOCKOUT RESET SYSTEM CHECK FOR 24 VAC BETWEEN S8700 VALVE AND VALVE GND TERMINALS DURING TRIAL FOR IGNITION CHECK GAS SUPPLY GAS CONTROL AND GAS CONTROL WIRING REPAIR REPLACE AS NECESSARY IF S8700 GOES INTO LOCKOUT RESET SYSTEM CHECK ALL IGNITION CABLE BURNER GROUND WIRING AND ...

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