JVC HR-S6960E, Instructions Manual

Page 1: ... Picture System 26 TIMER RECORDING 27 SHOWVIEW Timer Programming 27 Express Timer Programming 29 24 Hour Express Timer Programming 31 Automatic Satellite Programme Recording 34 PROGRAMME NAVIGATION 35 Navigation 35 EDITING 39 Edit From A Camcorder 39 Edit To Or From Another Video Recorder 40 Output Input Set 41 SYSTEM CONNECTIONS 43 Connecting To A Satellite Receiver 43 Connecting Using A Decoder ...

Page 2: ...t produce normal colour pictures if played back on a PAL video recorder with SECAM B system incorporated even if the TV set is SECAM compatible 3 SECAM L prerecorded cassettes or recordings made with a SECAM L video recorder produce monochrome pictures when played back with this recorder 4 This recorder cannot be used for the SECAM L standard Use a SECAM L recorder to record SECAM L signals IMPORT...

Page 3: ...r or liquids such as cosmetics or medicines flower vases potted plants cups etc on top of this unit 7 DO NOT place any naked flame sources such as lighted candles on the apparatus 8 AVOID violent shocks to the recorder during transport MOISTURE CONDENSATION Moisture in the air will condense on the recorder when you move it from a cold place to a warm place or under extremely humid conditions just ...

Page 4: ...19 23 F Pause 9 Button 墌 pg 20 G Record 7 Button 墌 pg 23 H S VHS ET Button 墌 pg 25 I SAT Button 墌 pg 34 J Infrared Beam Receiving Window K Front Display Panel 墌 pg 6 L SP LP EP Button 墌 pg 23 M Timer Button 墌 pg 28 30 N STANDBY ON 1 Button 墌 pg 11 O S VIDEO VIDEO AUDIO Input Connectors 墌 pg 39 To access covered connectors pull and open the connector cover ...

Page 5: ...Cord 墌 pg 10 B AV1 L 1 IN OUT Connector 墌 pg 10 40 43 44 45 C SAT CONTROL Connector 墌 pg 16 D ANT IN Connector 墌 pg 10 E AV2 L 2 IN DECODER Connector 墌 pg 16 40 43 44 45 F AUDIO OUT L R Connectors 墌 pg 46 G RF OUT Connector 墌 pg 10 ...

Page 6: ...ay 墌 pg 14 Mode Display L 1 L 2 F 1 S 1 or SAt When L 2 SELECT is set to SAT 墌 pg 42 SAt appears instead of L 2 G Timer Indicator 墌 pg 28 30 31 H Automatic Satellite Programme Recording Indicator 墌 pg 34 I Play Indicator J Record Indicator K Counter Display The counter can display up to 19 59 59 If the playback or recording time exceeds this limit the display starts to count from 0 00 00 L Tape Sp...

Page 7: ...Depending on the type of tape being used the tape position indicator may not appear correctly I VPS PDC Indicator 墌 pg 28 30 J Type of Broadcast 墌 pg 25 K Current Day Month Year L Clock Display M Channel Position Number and Station Name Auxiliary Input Indicator L 1 L 2 F 1 S 1 or SAT When L 2 SELECT is set to SAT 墌 pg 42 SAT appears instead of L 2 N Timer Warning Display A warning appears on the ...

Page 8: ...tton 墌 Operating JVC TVs on page 9 P STANDBY ON 1 Button 墌 pg 11 Q AUDIO Button 墌 pg 22 TV Muting Button 墌 Operating JVC TVs on page 9 R Display Button 墌 pg 24 S DAILY Button 墌 pg 28 30 T WEEKLY Button 墌 pg 28 30 U AUX Button 墌 pg 39 V Timer Button 墌 pg 28 30 W DATE Button 墌 pg 29 X PR Button 墌 pg 23 Y Auto Tracking p Button 墌 pg 22 SP LP EP Button 墌 pg 23 Z 30 SEC Button 墌 pg 21 a Play 4 Button 墌...

Page 9: ...below Point the remote control toward the receiving window The maximum operating distance of the remote control is about 8 m Operating JVC TVs To operate your TV while holding down the TV button press the corresponding button 1 TV VCR TV PR TV TV Muting NOTES When inserting the batteries be sure to insert in the correct directions as indicated under the battery cover Depending on the type of JVC T...

Page 10: ...r cord into a mains outlet Make AV connection if your TV has a 21 pin AV input connector SCART in order to reduce the possibility of interference With AV connection you can enjoy stereo playback of video tapes if you are using a stereo TV NOTES The AV1 L 1 IN OUT connector accepts and delivers either a composite signal regular video signal or a Y C signal a signal in which the luminance and chromi...

Page 11: ... SUISSE you also need to select your language If you live in Hungary MAGYARORSZÁG Czech Republic CESKÁ REPUBLIKA Poland POLSKA or other countries in Eastern Europe OTHER EASTERN EUROPE set the clock manually Before starting make sure of the following The TV aerial cable should be connected to the recorder The recorder s mains power cord should be connected to a mains outlet The TV should be set to...

Page 12: ...in from step 1 Auto Clock Set may not function properly depending on the reception condition If no sound accompanies the picture or the audio sounds unnatural on some channels that have been stored by Auto Set Up the TV system setting for those channels may be incorrect Select the appropriate TV system for those channels 墌 pg 55 INFORMATION Press OK The Language Set display appears on the TV scree...

Page 13: ...d Press OK The AUTO SET T V LINK display appears on the front display panel and or on the TV screen On the front display panel Press rt to select CH and press OK or e B Set the video channel Set the video channel to off manually 墌 pg 60 ATTENTION You can use this function only with a TV offering T V Link etc Be sure to use a fully wired 21 pin SCART cable Compatible with TVs offering T V Link Easy...

Page 14: ...s power back on again The Country Set display appears on the TV screen perform Auto Set Up on page 11 or Preset Download on page 13 again IMPORTANT To check if the Guide Program numbers have been set correctly perform the SHOWVIEW Timer Programming 墌 pg 27 In certain reception conditions station names may not be stored correctly and auto Guide Program Number Set may not work properly If the Guide ...

Page 15: ...s the Country Set screen C Select your country Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to your country s name then press OK or e D Select the language E Return to the normal screen Press MENU Turn on the TV and select the video channel or AV mode Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to AUTO CH SET then press OK or e Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to the language of your choice...

Page 16: ...itter and the satellite receiver s remote sensor is unobstructed B Attach the Satellite Controller Fix securely using the adhesive strip attached on the back of the Satellite Controller C Make connections Be sure to connect the recorder s AV2 L 2 IN DECODER connector to the satellite receiver s 21 pin SCART connector NOTE When connecting your satellite receiver refer to its instruction manual D Co...

Page 17: ... brand F Select the satellite receiver s channel for testing Turn on the TV and select the video channel or AV mode Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to SAT CONTROL SET then press OK or e Press the appropriate number keys to enter the brand code from the list on page 18 then press OK If the brand code you entered is invalid the code field will be reset Enter the correct brand code again I...

Page 18: ... use these functions only with a TV offering T V Link etc For details refer to the instruction manual of your TV Compatible with TVs offering T V Link EasyLink Megalogic SMARTLINK Q Link DATA LOGIC or NextView Link via fully wired 21 pin SCART cable The degree of compatibility and available functions may differ by system NextView Link You can download the EPG Electronic Programme Guide information...

Page 19: ...0 to remove the cassette Turn on the TV and select the video channel or AV mode Clean the video heads using a dry cleaning cassette TCL 2 when Rough poor picture appears while a tape is played back The picture is unclear or no picture appears USE CLEANING CASSETTE appears on the screen only with O S D set to ON 墌 pg 48 NOTE The heads get dirty in the following cases in an environment prone to extr...

Page 20: ... Press 9 and release again to return to still picture OR During still picture press and hold w or e Release to return to still picture NOTE During slow motion playback some noise may appear on the TV screen Press PR or on the remote control to eliminate the noises Picture Search Press 3 or 5 Press 3 or 5 again to perform high speed search NOTE Each time you press 3 or 5 the search speed changes be...

Page 21: ...kip over unwanted sections Each press initiates a 30 second period of fast motion playback Normal playback resumes automatically Instant Review Simply by pressing a single button the recorder power comes on rewinds and begins playback of the last timer recorded programme If you have several programmes recorded you can easily access any of them NOTE Before starting make sure that the recorder is of...

Page 22: ...yback is not possible with a cassette recorded in EP mode Manual Tracking Your recorder is equipped with automatic tracking control During playback you can override this and adjust the tracking manually by pressing the PR buttons 1 Override automatic tracking During playback press p on the remote control 2 Adjust the tracking manually Press PR or on the remote control Press p again to return to au...

Page 23: ...ing marked When DIRECT REC is set to ON 墌 49 if you press any button just after pressing 7 on the recorder or 7 and 4 on the remote control the recorder may not function properly E Pause Resume recording Press 9 Press 4 to resume recording You can select channel during the Record Pause mode F Stop recording Press 8 on the remote control or 0 on the recorder Then press 0 to remove the cassette Turn...

Page 24: ...t display panel 3 Set the recording duration If you want to record for more than 30 minutes press 7 to extend the time Each press extends recording time by 30 minutes NOTE You can only perform ITR using the 7 button on the recorder s front panel Elapsed Recording Time Indication 1 Set the counter display Press until a counter reading appears on the front display panel The front display panel shows...

Page 25: ...me playback modes 墌 pg 20 noise may appear If these modes are performed frequently on a tape recorded using the S VHS ET function the tape may be damaged and the picture may be deteriorated Receiving Stereo and Bilingual Programmes Your recorder is equipped with a Sound Multiplex decoder A2 and a Digital stereo sound decoder NICAM making reception of stereo and bilingual broadcasts possible When t...

Page 26: ...spends approximately 7 seconds assessing the condition of the tape then begins recording NOTES The B E S T system works for both SP and LP or EP modes only after a tape has been inserted and the Record mode is first initiated It does not work during recording The B E S T system does not work while Automatic Satellite Programme Recording is in progress 墌 pg 34 In the case of timer recordings the B ...

Page 27: ...re performing the SHOWVIEW Timer Programming Make sure that the recorder s built in clock is set properly Insert a cassette with the safety tab in place The recorder will come on automatically Turn on the TV and select the video channel or AV mode Press PROG Press the number keys to enter the SHOWVIEW number of a programme you wish to record If you make a mistake press and input the correct number...

Page 28: ...ord Weekly Or Daily Serials after pressing OK in step 3 press WEEKLY number key 9 for weekly serials or DAILY number key 8 for daily serials Monday Friday Either WEEKLY or DAILY appears on the TV screen Pressing the button again makes the corresponding indication disappear To change the channel position number press PR You can programme this recorder to timer record as many as 8 programmes If you ...

Page 29: ...u want recording to stop Press and hold STOP to move in 30 minute increments or press and release repeatedly to move 1 minute at a time E Enter the programme date Press DATE The current date appears on the TV screen The date you enter appears in its place Before performing Express Timer Programming Make sure that the recorder s built in clock is set properly Insert a cassette with the safety tab i...

Page 30: ...only when PROG NAVIGATION is set to ON 墌 pg 48 Press the number keys and e to enter characters then press OK For details refer to Entering Character on page 38 Satellite Receiver Users To timer record a satellite broadcast using Express Timer Programming A Perform Satellite Receiver Control Setting on page 16 B Perform steps 1 12 In step 6 press the number key 0 to change TV PROG to SAT Then press...

Page 31: ... blinking on the front display panel B Set the programme start stop time and channel Turn the JOG dial to the left or right to set the time you want recording to start One click stop of the JOG dial changes the time in 5 minute intervals Push the JOG dial The stop time indicator starts blinking on the front display panel Turn the JOG dial to the left or right to set the time you want recording to ...

Page 32: ... you do not want to edit the programme title skip steps 5 and 6 E Access the Title Edit screen F Enter the programme title G Return to the normal screen display Press as many times as necessary If there are still some programmes remaining go on to step 8 H Return to the timer mode Press TIMER NOTE You can also check the programmes on the front display panel even if the recorder s power is off unle...

Page 33: ...gram number will be recorded C Cancel or change programme setting To cancel a programme press when the Programme screen you do not want is shown PROGRAM COMPLETED appears on the TV screen for about 5 seconds then the normal screen appears To change a programme press the appropriate button START STOP DATE PR VPS PDC number key 7 DAILY number key 8 WEEKLY number key 9 and or SP LP EP p when the Prog...

Page 34: ... turns off the recorder s power and disengages the Automatic Satellite Programme Recording mode If there are more than one satellite programmes you wish to record with Automatic Satellite Programme Recording it is not possible to set different tape speeds for each programme Depending on the type of satellite receiver the recorder may not record a slight portion of the beginning of the programme or...

Page 35: ...he recorder checks the tape information for the Programme Navigation If the recorder can store the information for 3 or less tapes REMAIN _ also appears on the TV screen If the recorder has already stored the information for 10 tapes MEMORY FULL appears If you perform new recording the oldest tape information will be deleted from the recorder s memory If the recorder cannot detect the tape informa...

Page 36: ...correctly To record the programme information in this recorder s memory you must continue to record each programme for over the minimum recording time 8 minutes for the SP mode 15 minutes for the LP mode or 23 minutes for the EP mode Programme Navigation may not work properly depending on the tape being used The programme information is stored in this recorder s memory If the memory in this record...

Page 37: ...D Return to the normal screen Press MENU Perform steps 1 to 3 of Navigation Playback on page 36 before continuing Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to the programme you want to edit Press the number key 1 The Title Edit screen appears Press the number keys and e to enter characters then press OK For details refer to Entering Character on page 38 ...

Page 38: ...f you make a mistake press w e to select the character then enter the correct character If you want to delete a character press w e to select the character then press Delete Tape Data A Delete the tape data NOTE When you delete the tape data only the tape information is deleted from the recorder s memory The actual recording on the tape is not erased NUMBER KEY CHARACTER 1 f 1 2 A B C 2 Ä À Á Â Ã ...

Page 39: ...r PR to select F 1 for the AUDIO and VIDEO input connectors or S 1 for the AUDIO and S VIDEO input connectors depending on the connectors being used C Set the edit mode See PICTURE CONTROL on page 48 D Start the camcorder Engage the Play mode of the camcorder E Start the recorder Engage the Record mode of the recorder NOTES All necessary cables can be obtained from your dealer When you select EDIT...

Page 40: ...hat is compatible with the Y C signal When you select EDIT to dub tapes in step 3 be sure to select AUTO or NORM when B E S T is set to OFF after you finish dubbing the tapes When you use this recorder as the source player for editing be sure to set O S D to OFF before starting 墌 pg 48 If you are using another recorder with S Video and Audio input output connectors you can connect those connectors...

Page 41: ...S VIDEO Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to OUTPUT INPUT SET then press OK or e Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to L 1 OUTPUT or L 1 INPUT Then press OK or e to select the appropriate setting The default setting is bold in the table below 8 L 1 OUTPUT VIDEO If a connected appliance s input is compatible only with regular video signals set to VIDEO S VIDEO If a connected applia...

Page 42: ...g a satellite receiver or a decoder be sure to set L 2 SELECT back to appropriate mode When L 2 SELECT is set to SAT SAT or SAt appears on TV screen or front display panel instead of L 2 If L 2 SELECT is set to DECODER it is impossible to set L 2 INPUT to S VIDEO If L 1 OUTPUT is set to S VIDEO it is impossible to set L 2 SELECT to DECODER Perform steps 1 and 2 of L 1 OUTPUT and L 1 INPUT Setting ...

Page 43: ...details refer to the instruction manual of the satellite receiver IMPORTANT When you set L 2 SELECT to SAT 墌 pg 42 it is possible to view a satellite broadcast with the TV set to its AV mode even if the recorder is turned off When the recorder is in Stop mode or recording press TV VCR on the remote control to turn off the VCR indicator on the front display panel If you turn on the recorder when th...

Page 44: ...墌 pg 42 You can use Automatic Satellite Programme Recording function 墌 pg 34 with this connection To record a programme via the satellite receiver select L 2 mode by pressing AUX number key 0 and or PR so that L 2 appears on the front display panel To receive a scrambled broadcast descramble the signal with the decoder connected to the satellite receiver For details refer to the instruction manual...

Page 45: ...able through scrambled channels A Select the input mode Set L 2 SELECT to DECODER 墌 pg 42 B Connect the decoder Connect your recorder s AV2 L 2 IN DECODER connector to the decoder s 21 pin SCART connector using a 21 pin SCART cable C Set the tuner Perform the procedure as described in When Receiving A Scrambled Broadcast on page 55 TV receiver RF cable provided TV aerial cable AV1 L 1 IN OUT AV2 L...

Page 46: ...y CAUTIONS This recorder has a dynamic range of more than 80 dB with regards to its Hi Fi audio capability It is recommended that you check the maximum level if you are going to listen to the Hi Fi audio signals through a stereo amplifier A sudden surge in the input level to the speakers may damage them Some speakers and televisions are specially shielded to prevent television interference If both...

Page 47: ...o 51 A Access the Main Menu screen Press MENU B Access the Mode Set screen C Select the mode Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to the item you want to change D Select the mode setting Press OK or e E Return to the normal screen Press MENU Turn on the TV and select the video channel or AV mode Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to MODE SET then press OK or e ...

Page 48: ...isabled while the Timer mode is engaged To disengage the timer press TIMER 8 O S D ON OFF When this function is set to ON various operational indicators appear on the TV screen Messages appear in the selected language 墌 pg 14 15 NOTES When you use this recorder as the source player for editing be sure to set O S D to OFF before starting During playback the operation mode indicators may be disturbe...

Page 49: ...ample Recording a programme of 210 minutes in length onto a 180 minute tape Make sure you set this function to ON before the timer recording starts NOTES If you have programmed the recorder to timer record 2 or more programmes the second programme and those thereafter may not fit on the tape if you set AUTO SP LP TIMER to ON In this case make sure the mode is not engaged then set the tape speed ma...

Page 50: ... is set to ON To watch recordings with close caption set this function to OFF Video Stabilizer and Digital TBC NR cannot be used at the same time If you activate Digital TBC NR when VIDEO STABILIZER is set to ON Video Stabilizer will be automatically turned OFF 8 S VHS ON OFF Your recorder can record in S VHS Super VHS S VHS ET or VHS To record in S VHS Set S VHS to ON Then insert a cassette marke...

Page 51: ...to LP mode It is not possible to select EP mode if MESECAM is selected About NTSC Playback Some TVs shrink the picture vertically and place black bars at the top and bottom of the TV screen This is not a malfunction on the part of either the video recorder or the TV The picture may roll up and down This can be corrected using the V HOLD control found on some TVs This cannot be corrected if the TV ...

Page 52: ...C Access the Auto Channel Set screen D Select your country Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to your country s name then press OK or e E Select the language Press rt to move the highlight bar pointer to the language of your choice Turn on the TV and select the video channel or AV mode IMPORTANT Perform the following steps only if Auto Channel Set has not been set correctly by Auto Set Up ...

Page 53: ...ns your recorder located appear on a Confirmation screen channel positions PR channels CH and station names ID 墌 pg 57 The blueback screen and the programme currently being broadcast by the blinking station appear alternately for 8 seconds each To view the next page use the rt w e button on the remote control The stations located in the selected country appear at the top of the list The Guide Prog...

Page 54: ...ends scrambled broadcasts press e until OFF Decoder setting blinks then press rt to set DECODER to ON OFF is the default setting When L 2 SELECT is set to A V or SAT the DECODER setting cannot be changed 墌 pg 42 F Enter new channel information Press OK and the Confirmation screen appears Repeat steps 3 6 as necessary G Close the Confirmation screen Press MENU To change positions see Change Station...

Page 55: ...Manual Channel Set on page 54 C Select the position Press rt w e to select the channel position broadcasting scrambled programmes then press OK twice D Change the decoder setting Press e until OFF decoder setting begins blinking and set it to ON by pressing rt E Return to the Confirmation screen Press OK Repeat steps 3 5 as necessary F Close the Confirmation screen Press MENU Perform steps 1 and 2...

Page 56: ...lable for the station name ID are A Z 0 9 f I space maximum of 4 Fine Tuning Channels Already Stored A Select the channel to fine tune Press rt w e until the channel you want to tune begins blinking B Access the Manual Channel Set screen Press OK twice The Manual Channel Set screen appears C Perform tuning Press e until begins blinking then press rt until the picture is its clearest Then press OK ...

Page 57: ...nce2 France3 France 5 GALAVISION HBO HESSEN3 HSEU INFO KANAL ITALIA1 ITALIA7 ITV JIM TV JSTV KA2 KABEL1 KANAL2 KANAL5 Kbh Kanal Kinder Kanal LA7 Liberty TV LOCAL M6 MBR MCM MDR MOVIE MTV MTV1 MTV2 MTV3 NGEO News 24 NORD3 N TV NBC SUPER NDR NED1 NED2 NED3 Net 5 NICKELODEON NOVA TV NRK NRK2 ODEON ORF1 ID STATION NAME ORF2 ORF3 OWL3 PHOE POLS PREM PRIM PRO7 RAI1 RAI2 RAI3 RET4 RTB1 RTB2 RTL RTL2 RTL4...

Page 58: ...data from a PDC signal The Just Clock option can be set ON or OFF at the Clock Set screen the default setting is OFF Press OK until the Just Clock setting begins blinking then press rt to change the setting IMPORTANT If you turn off Just Clock the accuracy of your recorder s built in clock may be reduced which could adversely effect timer recording We recommend you to keep Just Clock on In cases w...

Page 59: ...number representing the station transmitting clock setting data then press OK or e H Start the clock operation Press MENU NOTES Just Clock when set to ON adjusts the recorder s built in clock every hour except for 23 00 0 00 1 00 and 2 00 Just Clock is not effective when the recorder s power is on the recorder is in the Timer mode a difference of more than 3 minutes exists between the built in clo...

Page 60: ...creen as shown to the right go to step 4 If the two vertical white bars do not appear clearly re set the video recorder to another vacant channel and try again NOTES If you set the video recorder to a channel which is occupied by a local station or has neighbouring channels that are occupied by local stations the picture reception quality will be affected and some interference noise will appear on...

Page 61: ...ording 2 The tape will not rewind or fast forward The tape is already fully rewound or fast forwarded Check the cassette SYMPTOM POSSIBLE CAUSE CORRECTIVE ACTION 1 The playback picture does not appear while the tape is running If you are using the RF connection the TV receiver s channel selector is not set to the video channel the recorder s video channel has not been correctly set If you are usin...

Page 62: ...ock and or timer settings The timer is not engaged Press and confirm that is displayed on the front display panel 2 Timer programming is not possible Timer recording is in progress Timer programming can t be performed while a timer recording is in progress Wait until it finishes 3 on the front display panel won t stop blinking The timer is engaged but there s no cassette loaded Load a cassette wit...

Page 63: ...ause the recording change channels then press 4 to resume recording 4 Channel settings that were made manually seem to have changed or disappeared After the manual settings were made Auto Channel Set was performed Perform manual setting again 5 No channels are stored in the recorder s memory The TV aerial cable was not connected to the recorder when Auto Set Up was performed Turn off the recorder ...

Page 64: ...o close together RECORDING Q When I pause and then resume a recording the end of the recording before the pause is overlapped by the beginning of the continuation of recording Why does this happen A This is normal It reduces distortion at the pause and resume points Q Can the video recorder indefinitely remain in the Record Pause mode A No The video recorder goes to its Stop mode automatically aft...

Page 65: ...B Horizontal resolution SP LP 250 lines VHS 400 lines S VHS EP 220 lines VHS 350 lines S VHS Frequency range 70 Hz to 10 000 Hz Normal audio 20 Hz to 20 000 Hz Hi Fi audio Input Output 21 pin SCART connectors IN OUT x 1 IN DECODER x 1 RCA connectors VIDEO IN x 1 AUDIO IN x 1 AUDIO OUT x 1 S Video connector IN x 1 TUNER TIMER TV channel storage capacity 99 positions AUX position Tuning system Frequ...

Page 66: ...ory 22 O O S D 48 ON SCREEN DISPLAY 7 Output Input Set 41 P PICTURE CONTROL 48 Picture Search 20 PLAYBACK 19 POWER SAVE 50 Preset Download 13 PROG NAVIGATION 48 PROGRAMME NAVIGATION 35 R Record One Programme While Watching Another 24 RECORDING 23 Recording Resume Function 23 Repeat Playback 22 S Satellite Controller 16 Satellite Receiver Control Setting 16 Set Stations A 56 Set Stations B 56 SHOWV...

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