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88 Outboard Series / 8804 Fader pack

Issue 2.7

Audio link between 8804 & 8816

 

 

Pin Number / Cable

1 Channel 1 In

26 Channel 11 Out

2 Channel 2 Out

27 Channel 12 In

3 Channel 3 Out

28 Channel 13-14 Gnd

4 Channel 4 In

29 Channel 15 In

5 Channel 5-6 Gnd

30 Channel 16 Out

6 Channel 7 In

31 Mix Left Out

7 Channel 8 Out

32 Mix Right Out

8 Channel 9 Out

33 Direct Even Gnd

9 Channel 10 In

34 Channel 1 Out

10 Channel 11-12 Gnd

35 Channel 2 In

11 Channel 13 In

36 Channel 3-4 Gnd

12 Channel 14 Out

37 Channel 5 In

13 Channel 15 Out

38 Channel 6 Out

14 Channel 16 In

39 Channel 7 Out

15 Mix Left Gnd

40 Channel 8 In

16 Mix Right Gnd

41 Channel 9-10 Gnd

17 +16v

42 Channel 11 In

18 Channel 1-2 Gnd

43 Channel 12 Out

19 Channel 3 In

44 Channel 13 Out

20 Channel 4 Out

45 Channel 14 In

21 Channel 5 Out

46 Channel 15-16 Gnd

22 Channel 6 In

47 Mix Left In

23 Channel 7-8 Gnd

48 Mix Right In

24 Channel 9 In

49 Direct Odd Gnd

25 Channel 10 Out

50 -16v

NB:
The metal shell of the connector should be connected to the 8804 chassis. 

NB:
IN means an input 

to

 8804

OUT means an output 

from 

the 8804

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Summary of Contents for 8804 Fader Pack

Page 1: ...r Pack User Manual 527 369 Issue 2 7 The 8804 fader pack is a complimentary product for the 8816 Summing Mixer It provides fader level control and Direct Outputs control from each channel plus Mute and Solo function ...

Page 2: ...s neve info crm fault_report html 2007 2010 AMS Neve Ltd own the copyright of all information and drawings contained in this manual which are not to be copied or reproduced by any means or disclosed in part or whole to any third party without written permission As part of our policy of continual product improvement we reserve the right to alter specifications without notice but with due regard to ...

Page 3: ...r Transfer 14 File Downloading 15 Corrupted or Old Firmware 15 Pin outs 16 Direct Outputs 50 way connector 16 Direct Outputs 2 x 25 way 17 Audio link between 8804 8816 18 Unit Specifications 19 A3 Circuit Block Diagrams 8804 Optional control with 8816 Summing Mixer Customer Service In the unlikely even that this unit should malfunction or develop a fault then please register the fault details on o...

Page 4: ...rovides fader level control direct outputs from each channel mute and solo control With an 8804 attached the level control on the 8816 is re assigned as an Auxiliary Pre fade Send Settings on the 8804 may be stored and recalled using the same Recall software as the 8816 and other members of the Neve 88 Outboard series System Requirements The 8804 may be used as a standalone unit If you wish to use...

Page 5: ...e computer via USB Connect the 50 pin Fader I O socket on the rear of the 8804 to the 50 pin socket on the rear of the 8816 using the cable provided Connect the associated 8816 to the same PC or Mac using a USB cable If the Recall software has been started the 8804 fader pack will now control the level of signals on the 8816 channel inputs and master outputs Mutes and Solos may be controlled from ...

Page 6: ...communication between the 8804 unit and the associated 8816 unit sending Cut and Solo commands from one to the other plus providing power to the 8804 For this reason when connecting the unit to a PC or Mac it must either be connected directly to an available USB port or via a powered hub not via a passive hub It also provides a link to the PC or Mac for the saving and restoring of 8804 settings Pl...

Page 7: ...unit is a polystyrene floor underneath this floor should be a CD containing software and manuals a 50 pin audio cable a USB cable a ribbon cable for installation inside an 8816 unit Mounting The 8804 can be rack mounted used on a table top or mounted in custom furniture To mount in a standard 19 inch rack the securing screws should be placed through the mounting holes using plastic washers to avoi...

Page 8: ...level control These auxes will always be pre fader and cannot be changed to post fader and in this situation the 8816 Master Level pot is no longer used Master Faders Two master faders control the Mix Left and Mix Right output levels with a gain range from dB to 0dB With both faders at the top of their range the mix gain is unity Cut Solo Channel Switches Cut Solo buttons above each channel activa...

Page 9: ...8804 Please refer to page 16 for Direct Output wiring pin outs Auxiliary Send With the levels controlled from the 8804 faders the rotary level control on the 8816 is available to use as an auxiliary pre fade send level control The output appears on Circuit 4 of Connector 3 on the 8816 Please see the 8816 User Manual for details of this connector Recall Setting Up Connect the 8804 and 8816 units to...

Page 10: ...ected both units must be set to SLAVE so the Recall software will operate correctly as shown left Set to SLAVE Set to SLAVE If you have two 8816s and two 8804 fader packs then one 8816 and 8804 must be set to MASTER and the other 8816 and 8804 must be set to SLAVE In this diagram the 8816 on the left is the master in terms of audio with the unit on the right feeding submix signals into it Set to M...

Page 11: ...CD Drive in Windows Explorer and double click the NeveRecall msi file or the setup exe file to launch the Setup program manually Click Next Click I Agree then click Next If you click I Do Not Agree the install procedure will terminate The installation programme will select a default location for files to be copied and created to Click Next to keep the default location or click Browse to select ano...

Page 12: ... will start and the progress displayed If you wish to launch Recall tick the Launch Neve Recall box Click Finish The software will now be ready to use and will be accessible from Start Menu Programs Neve Recall Neve Recall or from the Recall icon on the Windows Desktop 12 ...

Page 13: ...leted click Close The software is now ready to use New Versions of Recall Software for Mac Where you wish to install a new version of the Recall software on a Mac you will need to uninstall the previous version first and remove some files From the Applications folder move the Neve Recall folder to the Trash From the System Library Extensions folder move Neve8816 kext to the Trash move this file re...

Page 14: ...updated in two separate operations If more than one unit is connected via USB when the Update is about to be performed a screen will prompt you to disconnect the other units A prompt screen will confirm the software number version you should select and display the current version of firmware for the unit Click OK Selecting a File for Transfer The Open File dialog will appear To locate the firmware...

Page 15: ...cess is finished If the transfer fails for example if the USB is removed by accident or power is lost to the unit a warning message will prompt to the user to try again If Recall is started with a unit that has no firmware the user will be prompted to upgrade the firmware as the unit cannot be used in Recall unless the firmware installation is successful Corrupted or Old Firmware If the firmware i...

Page 16: ...d 8 Channel 8 Hot 33 Channel 16 Shield 9 Channel 9 Hot 34 Channel 1 Cold 10 Channel 10 Hot 35 Channel 2 Cold 11 Channel 11 Hot 36 Channel 3 Cold 12 Channel 12 Hot 37 Channel 4 Cold 13 Channel 13 Hot 38 Channel 5 Cold 14 Channel 14 Hot 39 Channel 6 Cold 15 Channel 16 Hot 40 Channel 7 Cold 16 Channel 16 Hot 41 Channel 8 Cold 17 not used 42 Channel 9 Cold 18 Channel 1 Shield 43 Channel 10 Cold 19 Cha...

Page 17: ...ables that adhere to this convention can be used Looking at the fader pack from the rear the connector on the right is for channels 1 8 Circuit Channel Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 1 24 12 25 2 2 10 23 11 3 3 21 9 22 4 4 7 20 8 5 5 18 6 19 6 6 4 17 5 7 7 15 3 16 8 8 1 14 2 The connector on the left is for channels 9 16 Circuit Channel Pin Hi Lo Screen 1 9 24 12 25 2 10 10 23 11 3 11 21 9 22 4 12 7 20 8 5 13...

Page 18: ...hannel 13 In 36 Channel 3 4 Gnd 12 Channel 14 Out 37 Channel 5 In 13 Channel 15 Out 38 Channel 6 Out 14 Channel 16 In 39 Channel 7 Out 15 Mix Left Gnd 40 Channel 8 In 16 Mix Right Gnd 41 Channel 9 10 Gnd 17 16v 42 Channel 11 In 18 Channel 1 2 Gnd 43 Channel 12 Out 19 Channel 3 In 44 Channel 13 Out 20 Channel 4 Out 45 Channel 14 In 21 Channel 5 Out 46 Channel 15 16 Gnd 22 Channel 6 In 47 Mix Left I...

Page 19: ...9 Height 17 6 cm 3U Depth 3 2 cm 1 Weight 2 1 kg Level Channels 1 16 to 15dB Mix L R to 0dB Frequency Response 0 2dB 10Hz to 20kHz 0 5dB 10Hz to 40kHz Distortion Measurement Window 10Hz to 80kHz Fader 0dB Distortion 0 005 20Hz to 20kHz Noise Measurement Window 10Hz to 22kHz Fader 0dB Noise 90dB 20Hz to 20kHz 19 ...

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