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18. 

TROUBLESHOOTING 

Machine Always Needs Adjustment

 

There are several things that can cause this situation. 

1. Cutter wheel may be dull. This can cause the key to try to "float" and not cut deep enough in

the deepest cuts if you don't push hard enough against the carriage. Replace or resharpen the
cutter (see replacing the cutter above). 

2.

Pushing harder and harder on the carriage to cut keys also puts more pressure on the stylus as

it passes across the key being duplicated. This heavy "scraping" action will remove more and
more material off the original key being duplicated. Heavy cutting pressure also will wear out
the stylus faster. 

3. Stylus may be worn. Check it carefully, if there is a groove worn in the stylus you may get

deep and shallow cuts on different brands of keys. For example when cutting Ford double
sided keys the ignition key will be cut high on the stylus and the door key will be cut low on
the stylus—Schlage C keys are cut more in the middle of the stylus.   This may seem like an 
extreme case—but it happens every day. Replace the stylus.

4.

Carriage shaft and bearings are worn. Check for excess "wobble". Replace the carriage shaft

and bronze oilite bearings. 

5. Cutter shaft bearings are worn. Check for any "wobble" or in-out play. Replace the cutter

shaft assembly. 

6. One key cuts fine and the next doesn't. You adjust and readjust all the time. The problem is

the carriage depth overtravel is set to high. This results in the machine's inability to cut the
deepest cuts on a key. This symptom is more common than you think. Fix the problem by
readjusting the Carriage Overtravel Depth Adjustment (see carriage overtravel adjustment 
above). 

7. Again. 

One key cuts fine and the next doesn't. This time it may be the key gauges.

Sometimes key machine operators don't flip back the full-function key gauges all the way
and the left-hand key gauge CRASHES into the stylus holder and knocks the key gauges out 
of position. The key they're cutting is O.K. but the next key they duplicate won't work in the
lock. If you ever CRASH the left-hand key gauge into the stylus holder—fix the key gauges 
right away. See Key Gauge Adjustment above.

8.  Keys don't always work in the lock when gauged off of the bottom shoulder stop. This is a

common problem caused by the key blank manufacturers. In recent years many of the key
blank manufacturers have stopped paying attention to the bottom shoulder stop on most keys 
since they are seldom used for anything anymore. We've seen Schlage C key blanks with
variations of up to 15 thousandths of an inch (.015") between top and bottom shoulder 
positions—between keys taken from the same box. It happens more often than you think.

The solution? 

DON'T bottom shoulder gauge your keys anymore.

Cutter Stalls Out

 

There are six possible causes for this problem. 

1. You are cutting keys from Tip-to-Bow. This one can fool you if you're not careful. Cutting

keys from tip to bow will work when you cut only shallow keys—sometimes a shop can cut 
keys all day long and never hit upon a key with a deep cut. You think everything is O.K.
when all of a sudden your cutter stops dead halfway along the key. The problem? The deep
cut put the cutter into the key past the cutter tooth area on the left side of the cutter—you just
reinvented the disk brake! 

SOLUTION—ALWAYS CUT FROM BOW-TO-TIP.

2. Oil on the belt and pulleys. Clean the pulleys with safety solvent and install a new drive belt.
3. Left-hand nut securing the cutter wheel isn't tight. 
4. Belt tension needs to be increase and/or replaced the drive belt.

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Summary of Contents for RY45

Page 1: ...E PRICES MAY VARY FROM YOUR DISTRIBUTOR Model RY45 OPERATOR S MANUAL Rytan Model RY45 Semi Automatic Key Duplicating Machine for Cylinder Keys and Automotive Keys Rytan Products Are Designed and Manuf...

Page 2: ...n Made Rytan Inc Model RY45 universal key duplicating machine Your new key machine has been designedand built with heavy duty components designed for the most demanding shop and van use As you become...

Page 3: ...d Never yank cord to disconnect from receptacle Keep cord from heat oil and sharp edges Never remove the ground connection from the plug If you use a two wire adapter be sure to properly connect the g...

Page 4: ...configuration The top jaw can be shimmed with 040 drill rod included to make deeper cuts in small keys Narrow groove style top and bottom vise jaws are possible by reversing the entire carriage B Key...

Page 5: ...wear Some steel keys will ruin your cutter wheel with just one pass NOTE Some automotive presentation keys are made of Hardened Steel and can ruin the cutter wheel instantly Don t befooled by the deco...

Page 6: ...Y KEY IS CLAMPED ON 102 OF ITS BLADE STANDARD JAW WILL CLAMP MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF KEY KEY IS CLAMPED ON 142 OF Its BLADE FIGURE2 TOP VISE JAW REPLACEMENT Either top vise jaw may be replaced at any time y...

Page 7: ...ee figure 4 REVERSING THE CARRIAGE The carriage is reversed on your RY45 key machine to switch from standard vise jaw configuration to narrow groove key clamping configuration To reverse the carriage...

Page 8: ...st the key into the vise jaw gently slide the key left and right a few times about 1 8 will do to seat the key into the vise jaws With the bottom shoulder of the standard cylinder key about 1 32 away...

Page 9: ...centered in the vise jaws Ignition key ridge will contact the face of the TOP vise jaw See figure 10 Door and truck key ridge will contact the face of the BOTTOM vise jaw See figure 9 See figure 9 for...

Page 10: ...12 Position the key in the vise so that the tip edge of the key is about 1 32 or less from the right edge of the vise jaws Operate the full function key gauges by rotating the key gauge shaft toward...

Page 11: ...the cutter by hand until the cutter shaft lock clicks intoposition When turningthe cutter by hand there is only ONE locking position to befound Once the cuttershaft lock isfullydepressed Holdit There...

Page 12: ...nut TheLeft HandNutisselflockingasyouuseit Over tighteningthecutterwheelnutmaymakeithardertoremovelaterandmayresultindamagingthecuttershaft lockorcuttershaftpulley PLEASE DON TFORGETtopullUPonthecutte...

Page 13: ...ey to compress the stylus all the way back Hold the carriage in this position during the adjustment process Observe that the cutter wheel misses the key blank in the right vise by carefully turning th...

Page 14: ...aws DO NOT bottom shoulder the keys into the vise there may be a small radius in the corner of the key blank s blade and bottom shoulder area Clamping in this area may ANGLE the key blank in the vise...

Page 15: ...y in place so you can t move it with your hand but you can move it with gentle to moderate tapping with your small plastic mallet See figure 18 Turn the cutter BACKWARDS with your hand to observe whic...

Page 16: ...carriagetotheLEFTmakingawidecutslightly morethanVi wide Seefigure19 PullthecarriagebackandswitchOFFthekeymachine Removethetwokey blanksfromtheright handvisejaw ReinstallonekeyblankintheRightvisejaw us...

Page 17: ...ching theface of the closed visejaw Gently turn theslotted screw stud withyour screwdrivertothe left as viewed fromthe frontof the machineandstopwhenyoufeelthestudcontactthekey machine scarriage remem...

Page 18: ...parts dry the next day with a clean rag or soft paper towel WARNING Do not turn the machipe over and set it on the Power Switch Lubricate the vise jaw plungers inside the carriage remove the key clam...

Page 19: ...y machine the qualityof the operator orthe qualityof the adjustments made to the machine All the questionsremainunanswered There is enly one way toget good results on aconsistentbasis Buy a quality bu...

Page 20: ...One key cuts fine and the next doesn t This time it may be the key gauges Sometimes key machine operators don t flip back the full function key gauges all the way and the left hand key gauge CRASHES i...

Page 21: ...rface when the cutter has sharp pointed teeth The ridges will get smoother as the cutter wears until finally you have to buy a new cutter or get the old cutter resharpened When you put on the new or r...

Page 22: ...continue to surface from time to time Best thing to do is a Never cut a key that s brought in by your customer Cut only what you know and make sure it always comes from YOUR inventory b Place a small...

Page 23: ...s HOW DO I REPLACE The Stylus Loosen the red T turn knob on the top of the stylus holder Pull out the stylus and replace with a new one Pushhard againstthetip of the stylusto compress the stylusspring...

Page 24: ...service for the RY45 key duplicating machine 21 WARRANTY The warranty registration form must be filled out and mailed to Rytan Inc within TEN days of date of purchase Failure to do so will VOID the w...

Page 25: ...AIRED BY UNAUTHORIZED SOURCES OR HAVE BEEN SUBJECT TO NEGLECT ABUSE MISUSE OR ACCIDENT INCLUDING SHIPPING DAMAGES OR MACHINES WHO S WARRANTY REGISTRATION FORMS HAVE NOT BEEN MAILED TO RYTAN INC WITHIN...

Page 26: ...r Foot 35 RY9058 Cap Screw 36 RY9024 Bronze Oilite Bearing 41 RY9055 Hex Jam Nut 42 RY9041 Switch 44 RY10035 Cutter Shaft Lock 48 RY42 Ball Bearing Cutter Shaft Assy 50 RY82 3 Piece Thrust Bearing Ass...

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