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installation and 
servicing

Elise

(V3 Flue System)

Your Ideal installation and servicing guide

For details of document amendments, refer to page 3

When replacing  any part on this appliance, use only spare parts that you can be 
assured conform to the safety and performance specification that we require. Do not 
use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Boilers.

H15, H24

For users guide see reverse of book

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October 2007          UIN 203949 A01

Summary of Contents for Elise H24

Page 1: ...ured conform to the safety and performance specification that we require Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authorised by Ideal Boilers H15 H24 For users guide see rever...

Page 2: ...2 Elise Installation Servicing...

Page 3: ...ise Installation Servicing DOCUMENT AMENDMENTS Relevant Installation changes implemented in this book from Mod Level A01 Sept 07 Ideal Stelrad Group reserve the right to vary specification without not...

Page 4: ...th mm in 278 11 The value is used in the UK Government s Standard Assessment Procedure SAP for energy rating of dwellings The test data from which it has been calculated have been certified by a notif...

Page 5: ...Central heating mode Heat input to be calculated For assistance see Technical Helpline on the back page Page Burner operating pressure n a Central heating flow temp measure and record Central heating...

Page 6: ...side Installation from inside ONLY b If a core boring tool is to be used inside the building the space in which the boiler is to be installed must be at least wide enough to accommodate the tool Front...

Page 7: ...Vertical Flue Kit 5 m primary and 17m secondary is a typical maximum flue length For further details refer to Powered Vertical Fluing Instructions z High Level Flue Outlet Kits z Flue Deflector Kit z...

Page 8: ...erably by the gas supplier to ensure that the meter is adequate to deal with the rate of gas supply required N B The principle of the 1 1 gas valve ensures that the Elise range is able to deliver it s...

Page 9: ...nt to the boiler CONDENSATE DRAIN Refer to Frames 23 49 A condensate drain is provided on the boiler This drain must be connected to a drainage point All pipework and fittings in the condensate draina...

Page 10: ...a differential temperature of 20 o C across the boiler is not exceeded 4 Adjust room and cylinder thermostats and programmer to NORMAL settings The system should be vented directly off the boiler flo...

Page 11: ...valve or discharge pipe should be positioned so that the discharge of water or steam cannot create a hazard to the occupants of the premises or cause damage to electrical components and wiring 3 Press...

Page 12: ...sion vessel must be connected to a point close to the inlet side of the pump the connecting pipe being not less than 15 mm 1 2 nominal size and not incorporating valves of any sort b The vessel capaci...

Page 13: ...nd water treatment in accordance with the Benchmark Guidance Notes on Water Treatment in Central Heating systems Ideal Stelrad Group recommend the use of FERNOX COPAL or MB1 GE Betz Sentinel X100 OR S...

Page 14: ...ssy 20 Fan bracket assy 21 Orifice plate 22 Flue thermistor LEGEND 1 Front casing panel 2 Sealing panel 3 Sump cover plate 4 Bottom casing panel 5 Flue sensing nipple 6 Return pipe 7 Flow pipe 10 BOIL...

Page 15: ...Servicing User s Instructions F Water Treatment Warning Label G Hardware pack B Pack Contents A Telescopic flue terminal B Flue turret C Screws 2 off D Sealing Tape 1 Ensure the boiler is stood correc...

Page 16: ...within Kit Instructions 80 80 TWIN FLUE KIT 60M TOTAL AIR PLUS FLUE DUCT Ref Graph within Kit Instructions MINIMUM HORIZONTAL FLUE LENGTHS TELESCOPIC TERMINAL 370MM Centre Line of turret to outside of...

Page 17: ...Mark onto the wall the following a The 2 wall mounting plate screw positions choose one from each group and the jacking screw position If using the stand off kit mark on 4 screw positions choosing one...

Page 18: ...20 b For shorter flue requirements use non telescopic B Pack 1 Measure and note wall thickness X Refer to Frame 14 2 Measure distance from side of boiler to inside of wall and add to wall thickness X...

Page 19: ...n 3 Subtract 950mm for each D pack to be used 4 If the remainder Y is 300mm 525mm this can be taken up by the adjustment in the telescopic flue 5 If the remainder Y is 52 5mm 950mm it will be necessar...

Page 20: ...materials may be used The drain outlet on the boiler is standard 21 5mm overflow pipe This size must not be reduced in any part of its length A plastic cap is fitted to the end of the condensate drai...

Page 21: ...g it can be confirmed that the down pipe is part of a combined waste and rain water system Make connection to SVP using a solvent welded saddle BOILER External wall Ground Level Termination to Soak aw...

Page 22: ...A located in the top of the flue manifold is secure and giving an effective seal 4 Secure the flue turret on top of the boiler by inserting the open ends of the turret clamp under the 2 studs and fixi...

Page 23: ...and pitched roof terminations using a concentric flue to run vertically from the top of the boiler and terminating above roof level Connection to the top of the boiler is made using both a separately...

Page 24: ...d so that products of combustion can safely disperse at all times Pluming may occur at the termination so where possible terminal positions where this could cause a nuisance should be avoided Minimum...

Page 25: ...25 Elise Installation Servicing INSTALLATION FLUE OUTLET rf8737 rf8738 31 FLUE ARRANGEMENT Note The equivalent flue length resistance of the elbow kits are 90o elbow kit 1m 45o elbow kit 0 6m...

Page 26: ...tile weather collar 1 nm8741 2 Extension Duct Vertical connector Turret clamp 3 nm8743 X 4 2 Push fit the vertical connector supplied seperately into the boiler flue connection and retain with the tur...

Page 27: ...e A boiler gas supply pipe length of 20m and not less than 15mm O D can be connected to the boiler via the gas service cock union Ensure that the gas supply pipe does not foul the boiler casing Refer...

Page 28: ...iagnostic controls to function correctly 3 Wire the switched live supply into L2 or connect L1 and L2 via external control switching as shown in Frame 32 In either case remove the wire link fitted L1...

Page 29: ...y br b 38 FUNCTIONAL FLOW WIRING DIAGRAM Overheat thermostat 1 2 br r r bk y pk b Mains Switch Flame detection electrode DC Fan Ignition electrode CH return thermistor not fitted Control thermistor DC...

Page 30: ...The fuse should be 3A Room Thermostat If the thermostat has a neutral connection use it It provides for more energy efficient operation by reducing switching temperature differentials Frost Protection...

Page 31: ...ted 11 Ensure that with the boiler operating the dynamic gas pressure is able to obtain maximum output Refer to Table 2 1 Check that the system has been filled and that the boiler is not air locked N...

Page 32: ...Installation and Use Regulations or rules in force 2 Explain and demonstrate the lighting and shutting down procedures 3 The operation of the boiler and the use and adjustment of ALL system controls s...

Page 33: ...mption 12 Connect a suitable gas analyser to the sampling point on the top of the boiler refer to Frame 45 or into the flue terminal if access is possible optional test For correct boiler operation th...

Page 34: ...r the 3 screws at the rear are extended to ease access 2 Lift off the burner from the combustion chamber IMPORTANT The burner head is a ceramic plaque construction Care must be taken to ensure that th...

Page 35: ...e gas service cock 10 Reconnect the electrical supply 1 Remove ignition and flame detection electrodes Refer to Frames 56 57 2 Remove the 3 screws retaining the sump cover and remove 3 Using a suitabl...

Page 36: ...nels Refer to Frames 45 46 3 Pull the electrical leads off the control thermistor 4 Pull the control thermistor and spring clip off the IMPORTANT When work is complete the sealing panel must be correc...

Page 37: ...nce of damage or deterioration is visible 9 Fit the new fan venturi assembly 10 Reassemble the boiler in reverse order taking care not to overtighten the screw on the fan mounting bracket 11 Check the...

Page 38: ...de 5 Remove the remaining screw holding the ignition electrode to the combustion chamber 6 Remove the electrode 5 Remove the flame detection electrode 6 Fit the new flame detection electrode using the...

Page 39: ...from the gas control valve 5 Undo the union nut between the gas valve and the gas inlet cock 6 Undo the union nut on the outlet side of the gas control valve 7 Undo the gas valve bracket screw slide t...

Page 40: ...move the bottom panel 4 Remove the 2 control box hex socket screws 5 Carefully unplug all the electrical wiring from the control box 6 With the control box lowered pull the assembly forward to remove...

Page 41: ...e gasket supplied 8 Reassemble in reverse order 9 Check operation of the boiler Refer to Frame 52 1 Refer to Frame 52 2 Remove the boiler front and sealing panels Refer to Frames 45 46 3 Pull off the...

Page 42: ...pare part z Gloves supplied with the spare part 8 Damp down the combustion chamber area containing the insulation boards 9 Remove the split pin and washer from the RHS of the combustion chamber 10 Rem...

Page 43: ...e flue thermistor 13 Unscrew the M5 x 10 screw retaining the top manifold flue casing 14 Remove the top half of the flue manifold from the appliance 15 Undo the 4 M5 x 10 screws securing the bottom fl...

Page 44: ...der Note Ensure that the boiler sealing panel is correctly seated compressing the seal to make an airtight joint 7 Check operation of boiler Refer to Frame 52 68 CONDENSATE S TRAP REPLACEMENT 1 Refer...

Page 45: ...FRAME 71 ALTERNATING L A GO TO FRAME 72 ALTERNATING L 8 GO TO FRAME 73 ALTERNATING H 1 GO TO FRAME 74 ALTERNATING H F GO TO FRAME 75 ALTERNATING H 4 GO TO FRAME 76 ALTERNATING H n GO TO FRAME 77 ALTER...

Page 46: ...ociated harness as necessary NO Replace gas valve YES NO NO 71 L E or H E BOARD ERROR Internal fault within the PCB Replace PCB Note Due to the wave form of the rectified voltage the reading will vary...

Page 47: ...er connected across the thermistors terminal pins At 25 o C expect 9 700 10 300 Ohms At 60 o C expect 2 400 2 600 Ohms At 85 o C expect 1 000 1 100 Ohms Remove the boiler flow thermistor from the CH f...

Page 48: ...C expect 2 400 2 600 Ohms At 85 o C expect 1 000 1 100 Ohms Are thermistor values correct Replace PCB Replace thermistor Fill and vent the system and open all isolating valves YES Check resistance us...

Page 49: ...l valve 1 170 913 22 E67 500 Flue thermistor 1 170 916 23 E67 501 Control thermistor 2 170 917 24 E67 502 Overheat thermostat 1 170 918 25 Ignition electrode kit 1 173 528 26 Flame detection electrode...

Page 50: ...50 Elise Installation Servicing SHORT LIST OF PARTS nm8077 78 SHORT LIST 79 BOILER CASING ASSEMBLY nm8967 1 Front casing panel with screws 2 Sealing panel with screws 4 Bottom casing panel with screws...

Page 51: ...1598 11 Burner assembly with screws and gasket LIST OF PARTS nm8968 80 CONTROLS ASSEMBLY 33 Controls assy with screws 34 Controls hinge bracket 35 User controls without item 38 36 PCB primary controls...

Page 52: ...52 Elise Installation Servicing NOTES...

Page 53: ...al Authority Building Control LABC who will arrange an inspection or contact a government approved inspector LABC will record the data and will issue a certificate of compliance If you notify via CORG...

Page 54: ...HAT TYPE OF SCALE REDUCER HAS BEEN FITTED FOR THE DOMESTIC HOT WATER MODE MEASURE RECORD GAS RATE ft3 hr MAXIMUM BURNER OPERATING PRESSURE IF APPLICABLE mbar COLD WATER INLET TEMPERATURE o C HOT WATER...

Page 55: ...ARD SERIAL No COMMENTS SIGNATURE SERVICE 3 DATE ENGINEER NAME COMPANY NAME TEL No CORGI ID CARD SERIAL No COMMENTS SIGNATURE SERVICE 4 DATE ENGINEER NAME COMPANY NAME TEL No CORGI ID CARD SERIAL No CO...

Page 56: ...cification without notice The Ideal Boilers Technical Training Centre offers a series of first class training courses for domestic commercial and industrial heating installers engineers and system spe...

Page 57: ...is appliance use only spare parts that you can be assured conform to the safety and performance specification that we require Do not use reconditioned or copy parts that have not been clearly authoris...

Page 58: ...their safety Destination Countries GB IE Elise H15 H24 Natural Gas Only H15 G C Appliance No 41 399 97 H24 G C Appliance No 41 399 98 z Children should be supervised to ensure that they do not play w...

Page 59: ...the boiler and consult a CORGI registered installer or in IE a competent person Flame failure Should this occur a fault code L F will be displayed Press the reset button and the boiler will relight If...

Page 60: ...al heating or domestic hot water Test by overriding the programmer by setting to continuous Check room thermostat for central heating or the cylinder thermostat for domestic hot water are set at the r...

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